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NO SPARK  - NO START ? - where to start !!
« on: Sep 1st, 2009, 9:50am »

with a little help from my friends -  
 
 
This has been extracted from a past post, authors Billysdad and John_AZ on a Start Problem.  
  
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  Re: 1987 starting problem  
« Reply #1 on: Jul 25th, 2009, 10:28pm »  Quote  Modify    
 
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Hmmmm.... that could be alot! you really have to go step by step and check the ecu harness and voltages to each area as you go. Here is a list of some test you should do one by one and eliminate problems.  
Air/fuel/spark/compression  
start by making sure we have a battery that is in spec.  
all fluids topped off  
no obvious broken wires and all vaccum hoses intact on visual inspection.  
OK we have 12v at the battery with adequated cranking voltage we get in and turn the key.  
12v from battery to ignition switch  
12v from pin 50 on switch to pin 4 on dme plug (start signal)  
12v on pins 1 (ignition pulse to ign. coil) and 18 (to G5 dme relay power supply)  
12v pin 30 at dme relay (fuel pump power supply)  
12v to pin 86 at dme relay in the run position (primary coil voltage)  
12v to coil + black wire to ground 12v to - (green wire) to ground  
12v to one side of the injectors  
All ground contacts are clean  
Fuel pump will run if dme relay is jumpered 30/87/87b  
Fuel pressure at the rail is 29psig +/- 3 (jumpered 36 psig)  
20 minute leakdown not under 14.5 psig  
Fuel flow rate is 28oz after 30 seconds  
Ignition coil primary resistance across + and - is between .4 and .6 ohms  
Secondary resistance is between 5000 and 7200 ohms  
Ignition wires are good no cracks or splits including coil wire and seated  
Plugs are properly gapped  
Ignition rotor is seated correctly with the set screw  
Timing belt is installed correctly  
Firing order is correct   - 1 - 3 -4 - 2
Reference sensors are gapped correctly with .8mm clearance off the flywheel  
Reference and speed sensors resistance checks in spec pins 8 and 27 speed 600-1600 ohms and pins 8 and 23 >1m ohm  
Reference and speed sensors voltage checks 2.5 and 2v on oscilliscope (good luck)  
Reference and speed sensor wiring is not broken at connector to sensor or to dme  
Ok Im tired anyone else want to add or be more specific?  
  
John_AZ  
Do a compresion test.  
Reference sensor tach bounce when attempting to start the engine. The tach bounce is very slight-1/16 of an inch. Clean connections as mentioned above.  
Injector "noid" light. Very basic tool but will tell you if the DME is sending a signal to the injector. An oscilloscope is the best.  
Clean connections at major parts like AFM, ISV, throttle body.    
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Cheers,  
Larry  
 
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and here are the links to the reference sensors - and how to and where  
 
http://www.944online.com/cgi-bin/forum/forum.cgi?board=944tech;action=di splay;num=1198863004
 
AND WE NOW HAVE A  " NOID "  LIGHT !!
plus this into your injector harness and it will light up IF you have injector pulse - no light - no pulse- save you a lot of time !!
 
http://www.944online.com/cgi-bin/ASI_Store.cgi?Product+skukey_20054112+9 442+tools-9442
 
same thing here with the spark light-  
easy to use - if you have spark it will light up --
 
http://www.944online.com/cgi-bin/ASI_Store.cgi?Product+skukey_20054111+9 442+tools-9442
 
 
 
 
 
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