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Jan 14th, 2014 at 5:24pm
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Hello Guys!

A little history on how i got this car.
So My father ran across a deal he couldn't refuse.
All original 1966 Pontiac GTO
1987 Porsche 944s
1995 Lexus 250

All bought for $5500.

He gave me the Porshe as a fun project car build since the other two cars are worth the value paid!

I just took delivery last week. Here are a few pics:
How it sat:

Taking her home:

Interior:

At Home in my garage:


Now so far what ive noticed/Done so far:

- Replaced hood and hatch struts
- Replaced Battery
- Engine turns over and there is spark
- Original spare tire great condition
- Original Porsche tools
- Porsche cigarette lighter air pump
- Lights flip up and work

Bad:
- Sunroof Gears are stripped
- Dont hear fuel pump priming
- When i tried to pump fuel from the tank with a hand pump i didn't get any fluid (gas gauge when car is on is showing empty
- When i tried to ADD fuel to the tank it LEAKED
- When i turn the car to the ON position i don't hear the fuel pump prime
- Ebrake is not holding


Ive been on this forum reading and reading and will be trying to jump the DME relay to see if the fuel pump even works.

Once i get the fuel issue sorted, This is whats next:

- Cam Tensioner guide will be replaced
- All belts checked
- Clutch checked
- Oil/oil filter change
- Air filter change
- Trans oil checked
- Replace shifter (its a bit sloppy)
- New tires

Any one have any other recommendations on the fuel issue and or things i should check?

Thanks!
-Nate
  

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Re: New Owner of a 944S
Reply #1 - Jan 14th, 2014 at 6:37pm
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Nate,

Now that was a good price -free

Sounds like you have a good head start. I will let all the mechanics on the site help you out - and they will.

Your 944 looks to be in pretty good shape!

Welcome and GOOD LUCK.

and he got a 66 GTO?
  

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Reply #2 - Jan 14th, 2014 at 6:59pm
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Yep 66 all original GTO.. Been sitting in a garage for 25 years untouched!  Shocked

YEP and you cannot beat free! I was expecting the Porsche to be in rough shape. When i picked it up i was actually pleasantly surprised.

From some investigation it was a one owner Porsche. The guy i got it from bought it but never registered it after he obtained it from the first owner.

I really want to get it running so i can get it on the road!

  

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Reply #3 - Jan 14th, 2014 at 7:26pm
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Okay, now I'm really really jealous.

A friend of my youth, his parents bought him a brand new red 66 GTO hardtop. What a nice car, I was only 13, but I did drive it.

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Reply #4 - Jan 14th, 2014 at 7:48pm
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Nate

Congratulations.

Nice appearing car, and all within easy fix. It may cost a few hundred here and there, but you know what ?

THAT is ALL its costing you, the repairs.
HOMERUN any way you play it......

Fuel leak ---

Where ? Is it in back by the fuel pump ?
May well be the pump itself or the connections.

How long has it been since run ? Look for an oil change sticker to determine this as a first clue.
The car may well only need a new fuel pump and new connections. The tank may well be jelled up inside and you don't want any more of that crud going into your fuel rail and down to the injectors.... little blobs of gel that will plug you up solid.

The first thing I would do would be to ascertain this end of it.... the fuel pump is a couple hundred bucks for a Bosch. Don't mess with anything less, and don't even think of putting it in till the fuel is flushed clean out the bottom of that tank.
Fuel filter is next to insert.

Well, you can take it from there as long as you are reading this stuff here and in the FAQs and trouble shooting guide Ian has supplied here, you are well on your way. Get your parts from the board that supports this Forum endeavor, they are guaranteed and come with volumes of years of service and kind eloquence. A helping hand in need..... how can a guy go wrong ?

BEST wishes on a really GREAT start to an enjoyable life with one of Porsche's best sports cars ever made.
The S is a low number car and has peculiar mechanical quirks that need special attention over a Normal..... but then each model does vary in small ways. Its the job of the owner to ascertain those issues, deal with them, live with them, and appreciate the cars for what they are.
  

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Reply #5 - Jan 15th, 2014 at 3:09pm
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So last night while i was waiting for someone at work, i got thinking on the Porsche..


I have the alarm/security system (i believe it works):



Does this "alarm" if its on kill the power to the fuel pump until its "disengaged"?

If anyone has any experience with it let me know!
  

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Reply #6 - Jan 15th, 2014 at 4:47pm
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Nice looking car and the price can not be beat. Change out the Cam and Balance Belts as it is cheap insurance against bent valves IF the Cam Belt breaks. A Rule of Thumb on the belts is 30k miles or 3 years, whichever comes first. The Cam Tensioner Pads should be inspected and/or changed. The Alarm System on these old cars are more trouble than they are worth. Nearly all have been disconnected and by-passed to prevent a NO START condition.

http://www.944online.com/cgi-bin/forum/forum.cgi?board=944engine;action=display;...

http://www.clarks-garage.com/shop-manual/elect-23.htm

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Reply #7 - Jan 16th, 2014 at 4:25pm
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Just put in an order Ian for intake boot/Fuel filter kit and shift lever!

Also got more things coming. Some work to commence this weekend!
  

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Reply #8 - Jan 19th, 2014 at 10:40pm
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So I was finally able to drop the fuel pan.  Check this out:

Guess I know where my leak is now!
  

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Reply #9 - Jan 27th, 2014 at 5:25pm
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Was able to spend some time on the car this weekend. Got the old fuel pump out. Tried to test it and it is completely locked up. I'm glad i ordered the new fuel pump.

I cleaned up the fuel protection pan from all the years of debris that made it into the pan (as you can see in the previous pictures.

Old pump on left, new on right:


Just have to get the rubber boot off and on to the new pump and get it in!

Both intank fuel filter and external fuel filter are replaced as well while i was down there.

Also installed the new shifter. Simple easy process. What a difference it made!

Awaiting last intake boot part from Ian. Should be arriving today.

Once fuel pump is in, car should be able to start. Once it successfully runs, then i will begin ordering parts for maintenance.

Ordered "recieved"/Next up:
-Chain tensioner pad replacement
-Valve cover gasket
-SunRoof hinges

Then next in line to order:
- Oil/Oil filter/Air Filter
- Gear oil for trans flush
- Spark plugs and cap and rotor
- Sunroof gear replacement
- Trunk lock gasket

Then check/Replace:
- Wires behind steering pump
- Clutch
- Ebrake not working
- Replace head unit
- Check why only passenger speaker is working (possibly replace)
- Window washer fluid not spraying
- Dash lights
- Plastic cap at end of trunk cover broken, need to find replacement cap
-Dry rotted tires


I am so excited that i finally have a project car again! Its been way to long.
  

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Reply #10 - Jan 28th, 2014 at 4:59pm
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First, the fuel pump doesn't work like other cars you may be familiar with.  The DME does not turn the fuel pump on until it senses engine rotation.  So there is no priming when you first turn the key on. 
Also, might as well change your belts and rollers right off the bat if you have no history on them.
And completely disconnect the wires to the power steering pump.  It was an S model thing and an after thought for Porsche, so it's an unprotected circuit that is known to fail and burn up your wire harness. 
Finally, at the very least, check your cam chain pads.  Preferably, replace them immediately.
Don't ask me how I know this stuff...
Otherwise, good looking car!  S is fun!  Enjoy it before you get the itch for more power...
  

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Reply #11 - Jan 28th, 2014 at 5:08pm
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speedysprocket:

The fuel pump i supplied direct power to from the battery after i removed it out of the protection pan and it still did nothing.

Im hoping i can get some time to work on it this up coming weekend.

Cam chain pad replacement kit i have already. Thats next up once i get all the fuel lines set!

Next up is also checking that wire behind the power steering pump.

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Reply #12 - Feb 3rd, 2014 at 4:35pm
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So after an eventful weekend, i finally got the car running!

http://s15.photobucket.com/user/95integraLS003/media/IMG_1094_zps22ada305.mp4.ht...

Not bad for sitting for 3-4 years!

Ordered/Next up:
-Chain tensioner pad replacement
-Valve cover gasket
- Oil/Oil filter
- Sunroof gear replacement
- Replace head unit & Speakers (Free hand me downs) Ordered speakers

 
Then next in line to order:
- Gear oil for trans flush
- Spark plugs and cap and rotor
- Trunk lock gasket
-Dry rotted tires
 
Then check/Replace:
- Wires behind steering pump
- Clutch
- Ebrake not working
- Dash lights
- Plastic cap at end of trunk privacy cover broken, need to find replacement cap


Done:
- Replaced fuel pump/Fuel filters/Cleared lines
- Air filter
-SunRoof wind deflector hinge for passenger side since drivers side is discontinued
- Window washer fluid spraying but only with a direct line from pump into reservoir

Im getting excited now! Cant wait to get her out on the road.
  

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Reply #13 - Feb 13th, 2014 at 3:03pm
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So i took the car for a drive around the neighborhood. Overall runs great!

I need to fix my ebrake. That a concern because once i take it out id really like to be able to engage it.

Also have another issue, driverside windshield wiper does not wipe the lower part of the window, its like the arm doesnt have enough strength to push it against the window.

Hopefully i can work on it some this weekend.

Ordered/Next up:
  -Chain tensioner pad replacement 
  -Valve cover gasket 
  - Oil/Oil filter
  - Sunroof gear replacement
  - Replace head unit & Speakers
  - Trunk lock gasket 
  - Front license plate holder
   
  Then next in line to order:
  - Gear oil for trans flush 
  - Spark plugs and cap and rotor 
  - Dry rotted tires
   
Then check/Replace:
  - Wires behind steering pump   
  - Ebrake not working   
  - Plastic cap at end of trunk privacy cover broken, need to find replacement cap
  - Reverse lights not working
   
 
Done:
- Replaced fuel pump/Fuel filters/Cleared lines
- Air filter
-SunRoof wind deflector hinge for passenger side since drivers side is discontinued
- Window washer fluid spraying but only with a direct line from pump into reservoir (fixed)
  - Replace windshield wipers
  

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Reply #14 - Feb 19th, 2014 at 7:09pm
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After being able to spend a bit more time i was able to get a few things hammered out.

Sunroof gears were SUPER easy.

In the process of doing the sunroof gears, i noticed the driverside rear sunroof drain is not connected. Ill need to get that reconnected, almost looks like there was a small hose that was removed between the upper and lower lines.

Also the internal button for the trunk release is not working. All the fuses checked out good. When you press it, no noise is coming from the release mechanism. Wondering if it has to be rebuilt or maybe its locked up?

The tail light drain tubes, where are those suppose to be routed to? Mine were just hanging out in the trunk, not sure where they go to.

Quick update status:

Ordered/Next up:
-Chain tensioner pad replacement
-Valve cover gasket
- Oil/Oil filter/Oil filter wrench
- Replace head unit (Friend will be installing since the stock wiring is all hacked up) & Speakers (gotta figure out how to swap the rears)
- Gear oil for trans flush
- Spark plugs

Then next in line to order:
- cap and rotor / Wires
- Dry rotted tires

Then check/Replace:
- Wires behind steering pump
- E-brake not working
- Plastic cap at end of trunk privacy cover broken, need to find replacement cap
- Reverse lights not working


Done:
- Replaced fuel pump/Fuel filters/Cleared lines
- Air filter
-SunRoof wind deflector hinge for passenger side since drivers side is discontinued
- Window washer fluid spraying but only with a direct line from pump into reservoir (fixed)
- Replace windshield wipers
- Sunroof gear replacement
- Trunk lock gasket
- Front license plate holder
  

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